(Video and English translation at the end).
A la veille d’une soit-disant "visite surprise" à Tripoli du Président Français, (à Tripoli … en Libye, ou bien dans les studios grandeur nature du Qatar, à Doha ??), il me paraît important de revenir sur le véritable visage des rebelles … ce que fait de manière exemplaire l’article suivant.
(Miss Libyana)
"Ce qui suit vient d’un e-mail (amélioré), que j’ai envoyé hier à quelqu’un d’Amnesty International. Aujourd’hui, je n’ai pas pu l’envoyer à quelqu’un d’autre, mais j’ai l’intention de le faire bientôt. En attendant, je vais le poster ici sur mon blog, en demandant à toute personne se sentant concernée d’aider à le transmettre. Au moins, nous pouvons être assez sûrs de qui est responsable du massacre survenu à l’hôpital d’Abou Salim. Bien sûr, nous ne pourrons jamais être certains à 100%, le problème étant causé par des gens actuellement hors de contrôle et sourds aux faibles plaidoyers pour le « respect des droits humains ». Ces plaidoyers sont exprimés par les deux parties, mais celle ici en cause semble les ignorer. Les Libyens en payent vraisemblablement le prix fort."
"J’écris pour vous avertir de certaines choses que j’ai constatées à propos de la découverte sinistre et traumatisante faite récemment à l’hôpital d’Abou Salim à Tripoli. On a beaucoup écrit sur ce lieu depuis le 26 août, avec ses salles abandonnées et peut-être des centaines de corps en décomposition. Mais je crains que les circonstances aient été mal comprises : en effet, les journalistes ont tendance à quitter les lieux perplexes, sans avoir remarqué quelques-uns des indices les plus importants. J’ai compilé mes recherches sur les médias disponibles publiquement ici : Les massacres de Tripoli. Le drame de l’hôpital d’Abu Salim…
Voici ci-dessous les indices les plus clairs relevés par un couple de journalistes qui les a remarqués, et que nous remercions.
« L’hôpital de Tripoli transformé en "morgue de masse" », Janis Mackey Frayer, "Tripoli hospital turned into ‘mass morgue’" Janis Mackey Frayer, CTV News. Sat. Aug. 27 2011 :
"On ne sait pas comment les hommes, femmes et enfants sont morts. Les corps que nous avons vus étaient ceux de loyalistes kadhafistes qui ont été blessés dans la bataille. Une affiche de Mouammar Kadhafi présidait une salle pleine de sang, d’eau et des asticots.
Au moins deux hommes ont été abattus dans leur lit. Ils étaient au deuxième étage recouvert de couvertures. Comme les civières avaient été poussées plus loin, on pouvait voir où les balles avaient traversé les oreillers. Le sang sur le mur indiquait qu’il s’agissait d’une exécution. L’un des corps avait une carte militaire libyenne l’identifiant comme un membre des forces spéciales.
Personne ne peut dire si ce sont des kadhafistes ou des tireurs rebelles qui les ont exécutés. J’ai demandé à un médecin de me dire depuis combien de temps, à son avis, les deux hommes étaient morts. Il a estimé que le décès remontait à deux ou trois jours, puis a secoué la tête et a marché le long du couloir strié de sang."
Outre les patients, du personnel peut avoir été abattu. Cette photo par Youssef Boudlal devrait être présentée à un expert en médecine légale, mais je pense que cela montre les traces de 3 à 6 exécutions par balle dans ce tronçon de couloir :
Les forces rebelles ont déclaré que le personnel s’était tout simplement « enfui », mais j’ai l’impression qu’il a été exécuté pour que les rebelles puissent se servir des lieux comme d’une sorte de morgue. La couleur de peau des morts est un autre indice : tous ou presque ont la peau noire, selon les journalistes et les photographies.
Une autre photo de François Mori montre qu’une des victimes au moins a été décapitée, apparemment dans ce lit, (à droite du centre) :
Certains éléments au sein des forces rebelles sont connus pour avoir tué des hommes noirs en particulier et pour avoir coupé des têtes. Je ne peux pas voir là-dedans l’œuvre d’un régime en fuite, faisant tuer ses propres partisans par des snipers, procédant à des exécutions sommaires, ou chassant les médecins pour que les patients meurent faute de soins.
Que peut-on et que doit-on faire à propos des abus possibles commis par les forces du nouveau gouvernement ? Je ne sais pas. Pour ma part, je retroune à mes anciens blogs. J’espère que vous pourrez aider à déclencher l’alarme à propos de cette preuve qui suggère fortement de quoi les gens de Tripoli sont l’objet en l’absence de protection de l’ancien gouvernement."
(By Caustic Logic, Source : http://libyancivilwar.blogspot.com/2011/09/urgent-appeal-major-unnoticed-rebel.html)
(Traduction en Français : Investig’Action)
Ci-dessous, une interview de Matthieu Mabin pour France 24, le vendredi 26-08-11. Grand défenseur des rebelles, il avouait les exactions du CNT et de la rébellion qui "auront des comptes à rendre à l’avenir", selon ses propres mots.
Deux jours après, le dimanche 28-08-11, l’on nous annonçait sur les télévisions françaises que "le régime de Kadhafi était accusé de plusieurs massacres" dans Tripoli.
Et j’écrivais alors :
"Souvenez-vous de la mise à mort du Général Abdel Fatah Younès, (membre éminent du CNT), et de deux de ses Colonels : égorgés et … brûlés.
Ca ne vous rappelle rien ?
Ce sont les méthodes d’Al Qaïda, pas celles des Forces Loyalistes !A Benghazi, plus un seul homme de couleur noire : ils ont tous été exterminés par les islamistes, et pourtant, la majorité d’entre eux n’étaient que de pauvres travailleurs immigrés …
Tripoli vit aujourd’hui la même chose, à plus grande échelle.
Ne perdez pas de vue que le Commandant rebelle de Tripoli, sous contrôle de l’OTAN, n’est autre que Abdelhakim Belhaj Al Khouildi, plus connu sous le nom de Abou Abdallah Sadek, et surtout membre d’une filiale d’Al Qaïda !!!
Et, une fois encore, l’OTAN maquille la vérité afin de sauver la face de leurs petits protégés qui, armés jusqu’au dents, ne manqueront pas de faire quelques attentats en France ou en Grande-Bretagne dans les mois qui viennent …"
Inutile de vous rappeler qu’à l’heure d’aujourd’hui, la ville de Tawarga, proche de Misrata est une ville fantôme : presqu’intégralement peuplé de libyens à la peau noire, après avoir subi d’intensifs bombardements de l’OTAN pour favoriser l’entrée des rebelles, ceux-ci ont purement et simplement égorgé les survivants …
Je doute malheureusement que cela soit de tout ceci que le Président Français compte discuter avec ses "amis rebelles" demain …
Pourtant … si moi je suis au courant, comment ne le serait-il pas ?
(Miss Libyana)
*****
The day before the supposedly "unexpected visit" to Tripoli of the French President (to Tripoli … in Libya, or in the studio decors of Qatar, in Doha ??), it apprears to me important to come again on the two-faced rebels … what the following article does in an exemplary way.
(Miss Libyana)
The following is from an e-mail (improved) I sent to someone at Amnesty International yesterday. I’ve been unable today to send it out to anyone else, but plan to soon. In the meantime, I will post it here on my bulletin board, with a request for anyone else concerned to help spread the word. We can be fairly sure who’s responsible for the horror at Abu Salim trauma hospital at least. We can’t be 100% sure, but the problem is, they’re the ones with no checks on them at the moment, aside from weak pleas to "respect human rights." These are always issued to "both sides," and the side in question apparently ignores them. People on the ground seem to be paying a high price for that.
This is to alert you of some things I have found regarding the recent grim discovery of Abu Salim trauma hospital, Tripoli. The place was much reported-from on August 26, with its abandoned halls and perhaps hundreds of rotting bodies, (reported as "dozens," 75, 100-150, and over 200). But I fear the circumstances there are little understood, (the body count being so inexact is a clue).
Indeed, journalists tend to walk away perplexed, after apparently failing to noticing some of the most important clues. I have compiled my research on publicly available media here: The Tripoli Massacres: Abu Salim Trauma "Hospital." Below are the clearest clues from a couple of journalists who did notice them, and we owe them for that.
"Tripoli hospital turned into ‘mass morgue’" Janis Mackey Frayer, CTV News. Sat. Aug. 27 2011 ,South Asia Bureau Chief.
"It is unclear how the men, women and children died. The bodies we saw were those of Gadhafi loyalists who were wounded in battle. A poster of Moammar Gadhafi presided over a room slick with blood, water and maggots.
At least two men were shot in their beds. They were on the second floor covered with blankets. As the gurneys were wheeled away you could see where a bullet had passed through the pillow. The blood on the wall hinted at an execution. One of the bodies had a Libyan military card identifying him as a special forces member.
Nobody there claimed to know whether it was Gadhafi or rebel gunmen who executed them. I asked one doctor to give his opinion on how long the two men had been dead. He estimated two or three days, then shook his head and walked down the blood-streaked corridor."
Besides patients, staff may have been shot. This photo by Youssef Boudlal should be shown to a forensics expert, but I think it shows the residue of 3-6 gunshot executions in that stretch of hallway :
The rebel forces said the old staff simply "ran away," but I feel they were executed so the rebels could take it over as a sort of morgue. The makeup of the dead is another clue : all or nearly all of them are black-skinned men, according to the journalists there and the photographs.
Another photo by Francois Mori shows one victims at least is headless, apparently decapitated in that very bed (right of center) :
Certain elements within the rebel forces have been known for killing black men especially, and for cutting off heads. I just don’t see the work of a fleeing evil regime here, killing their own with snipers or on-site executions, or chasing the doctors away so patients would die of neglect.
What exactly can and should be done about the possible abuses by the new government’s forces, I don’t know. For my part, I had to go past blogging. I hope you can help raise an alarm of concern over what this evidence strongly suggests the people of Tripoli are being subjected to in the absence of the former government’s protection.
Here in summary is the situation at the hospital :
Said : Old staff ran away from gov’t snipers just before FFs got there
Fact : Blood spatters like gun executions on the floor
Said : Patients in there injured by gov’t snipers, died of neglect
Fact : Some patients shot in their bed (gov’t loyalists/soldiers)
Fact : The dead are almost 100% black men
Fact : One black patient was beheaded in his hospital bed
Fact : The rebels now in charge are the ones missing massacre clues and saying the staff "ran away."
Fact : Everywhere they liberate, horrible things were happening just before - not just after – they got there.
Seriously – world leaders, readers, crusaders, anyone … the math on this is not hard. People will be able to see this some day, and perhaps a larger holocaust this is the nose-above-the-water to. They will ask questions about why you remained silent and allowed it to continue. What will be your answer?
(By Caustic Logic, Source : http://libyancivilwar.blogspot.com/2011/09/urgent-appeal-major-unnoticed-rebel.html)
Here after, an interview of Matthieu Mabin on France 24, friday 26-08-11. Strong rebels’ defender, he confessed TCN and rebels’ barbaric acts, who "will have to be answerable in the future", according to his own words.
Two days after, Sunday 28-08-11, French medias announced us that the "Kadhafi’s Regime is accused of several massacres" in Tripoli.
At that time, I wrote :
"Remember the execution of General Général Abdel Fatah Younès, (TNC’s distinguished member), together with two of his Colonels : cut the throat of and … burned.
Does this recall you something ?
Those are Al Qaeda methods, not those of the Loyalist Forces !In Benghazi, no more black people : they all have been exterminated by islamists, and yet, most of them were only poor immigrant workers …
Tripoli is subject to the same, even more.
Do not lose sight of that rebel Major of Tripoli, under NATO’s command, is Abdelhakim Belhaj Al Khouildi, also known as Abou Abdallah Sadek, and more than anything member of one Al Qaeda’s subsidiary !!!
And, once more, NATO disguises truth in order to save face of its little pets who, all armed, will not hesitate to make some bomb attacks in France and United Kingdom in the coming monthes …"
Unnecessary to remind you that at present, the city of Tawarga, near Misrata is a ghost town : almost completely fill up with black skined libyans, after have been subjected to intensive bombings from NATO in order to favour rebels’ entrance, those ones had purely and simply cut the throat of the survivors …
Unfortunatly, I doubt that French President intend to discuss of all that tomorrow with his "rebels’ friends" …
However … If I know, how wouldn’t he know too ?
(Miss Libyana)
Translation of the video :
Matthieu : "In Abou Slim there are not really fights, but tracks down of loyal people to Kadhafi, or, better said, of the little state employees who lives in buildings and didn’t get enough money to escape the rebels’ punishment.
What is happening now is the most sad stage of Libya’s war, with those hordes of rebels who keep going in this area at those people, those families who took refuge at home.
Some journalists are coming back right now from Tripoli’s main hospital, where they saw all night and this morning, really a lot of bullet injured people including seniors, women, and even children.
TNC tells not a word about all this, there is not at all surrender call.
We are near the saddest part of the conflict, and probably TCN and rebels will have to be answerable in the future."
Julie : "Despite tracking, Muammar Kadhafi still stays untraceable, but we still can hear him.
He ask to his partisans to resist, to defeat enemies, and to liberate Tripoli."
Muammar : "NATO moves back, NATO cannot go ahead anymore, they can go to the devil, those people will sully your honnor, they do like this, those are their methods.
They are monsters, we have to stop them.
Don’t let Tripoli to those rats : keep them, kill them.
You are in the majority."
Julie : "A rumour assured that Muammar Kadhafi was hidden in Abou Slim area : where can he be, and does TNC decides what they want to do with him ?"
Matthieu : "No, really not.
TCN no tells a word here in Tripoli, and when it does, its messages doesn’t have effect on rebels’ troops.
There are not followed instructions.
It’s impossible at the moment to tell where Muammar Kadhafi is, and, once again, we are in a purge stage absolutely uncontrolled, in particular a Misrata ‘s gang which came to Tripoli to have revenge."
(Translation of the video by Miss Libyana)


Nice well done, i’ll read it after i’ll finish my video
Piu, mine is done …
I will add it to my blog tomorrow I think, with more details on description.
But if you want to have a look :
Have a sweet green night
Libby
Gasp …
Do you see also the video on the comment, or am I really very very tired ?
(I didn’t know this was possible, lol)
Hello Libby!
I DIDN’T understand what you asked.
Anyway in the "from you" section u wrote:
"This seems totally true : online libyan TV warmed libyan people that the SMS text they received were sent by NATO and were a trap.
There’s no Jamahiriya call : Libyans, stay at home on the 18th of September, 2011 !!
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/ilibya-tv"
Can you give me the source?
Now i’ve to finish few things and then i’m read to read and watch all u posted, sorry if i couldn’t yesterday but had many problems with that video and could finish it only at 2:00 cet.
Hi Zukky
,
My question was just ’cause I added a link in my message and when I clicked "send", hop, I saw the video, not only the link, lol.
For the Nato’s sms to loyalists people, I read it in a comment in a french blog, or article, I don’t remember exactly where, but was a monthes "sure" source, if not, I should never add it.
I read it after on other places, I’m quit sure but … I can’t help you on this …
You know what ?
No obligation to read my work, you’re free, lol.
Did you see frames from yesterday from NS in maybe the same hospital than the above one ?
Disgusting …
Keep in touch,
L.
"No obligation to read my work, you’re free, lol."
Obviously for me its a pleasure
Btw as you can see from my avatar on Youtube, i’m L aswell
In Death Note "L" is the smartest boy of the world, and he’s the cap of the internacional police. When they can’t solve a case, then they call the super Detective "L" which hide is really identify. He’s also called :"Ryuzaki" which i turned into "Ryuzakero". From there i took may nick
L.
Did you see frames from yesterday from NS in maybe the same hospital than the above one ? Disgusting …
What means: "NS"?
Anyway these are the worst criminals of whole Libya’s history…
Ah yes and obviously also I see the video instead of just the link
Well very nice article.
I think this sentence can summary everything is happening in Libya:
"Everywhere they liberate, horrible things were happening just before – not just after – they got there."
Anyway congratulations for your perfect english

This article proves it
PS: I wrote you at youtube
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